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Bogino,
Your imbecility in disagreeing with me would depend heavily upon with what you disagree, how you disagree and, most importantly, where you disagree.
As I said before, too many Americans expressing imbecilic ideas and attitudes publicly in Costa Rica is liable to give the rest of us a bad name. If you like US empire building, being raped by the banks and losing your constitutional rights in the name of patriotism and really believe that Americans are better than everyone else, PLEASE keep that nonsense back home in the States where it can fester and bring about the fall more quickly. This slow agonizing death of empire is getting on my nerves.
[quote=”bogino”][quote=”clayton”]Sprite, please make your own plans as you see fit, and I may agree with you on this prognostication. You needn’t continually have diarrhea of the mouth though. Costa Rica has not helped you as an ugly whatever you claim to be.[/quote]
Well said Clayton. I’ve decided to no longer waste my time responding to miserable and angry imbeciles. Thx.[/quote]
Well, guys, I am not miserable although I do admit to feeling angry sometimes. I think that anger these days is normal and healthy if it is correctly directed and managed.
Please look up the term “ugly American”. It is an abbreviation to describe a common perception of certain people from my country by foreigners. If I have used the term improperly in my comment, let me know how. Otherwise,
I will assume you agree with me.Bogino, how much experience or evidence do you have to back up your “opinions” about American character?
There are no super races or super cultures which are immune to the ravages of the extreme deprivation of a deep depression. You sound like one of those delusional, ugly Americans who think they are part of an exceptional super race. Please tell me you are kidding and just trying to be provocative.
Suicide rates and crime in the US during hard economic times have always increased. They are higher now. Just wait till the pooh hits the fan. Anytime now……
Well, Smekuly..we agree again. Ron Paul would probably be assassinated if by some miracle he got elected….just like nearly every other president who attempted to oppose the banking cartel.
JFK had a proposed bill on his desk (Executive Order 11110) which aimed to eliminate the FED. Bang!
Andrew Jackson opposed the banks. Bang, Bang! (They missed)
Lincoln opposed the banks. Bang!
James Garfield opposed the banks. Bang!
Even Reagan, a man I do NOT respect, merely suggested a move which the bankers did not like and ..Bang! But they missed him too.)It’s all about personal experiences. I doubt I was smarter than you as a teen, Scott. I was exposed to the up and coming left wing political youth movement of the late 60’s at Ohio State University and that exposure kept me from making the common error that many naive 19 years make when they join or are drafted into the military. I have always been a bit rebellious by nature and a later traumatic experience with American soldiers pretty much solidified my disgust for uniforms carrying weapons under any flag.
In Costa Rica, I made an acquaintance with an ex Israeli commando who worked with the Mossad in his youth. We spoke for quite a while on this very subject of signing up for state sponsored violence and his repentance for his actions in that service was deep and sincere. Nobody to date has been able to convince me that submitting to military brainwashing attempts has any positive effects on the world or the individual.
President Obama recently took his orders from the United Nations when he committed US air forces to bombing Libya. He did not even try to obscure this treason and stated that he was not required to consult with congress for these “kinetic military actions”. Hinchley’s choice of the words “patently obvious” is an understatement.
Soldiers put themselves into situations where killing to save lives is required. Don’t try to excuse the sin by claiming you had no choice but to do it or that the devil (Nixon) made you do it. Everyone has a choice except the naive, the stupid, the brainwashed or those that are afflicted by all three maladies.. At 19, I chose NOT to be drafted. I resisted and kept myself free from committing that particular sin.
Ron Paul served as a flight surgeon in Vietnam. Even THAT is aiding and abetting war. He would have done more good staying home and joining the rest of us protesting the war.
[quote=”maravilla”]oooooo-eeeeee did we used to love to villify the john birchers, but was he right or was he right?? he didn’t need a crystal ball to see where things were headed even waaaaay back when. the mess we are in didn’t start with Obama, folks.
i have always thought ron paul was one of the few politicians who actually understood the dire mess we are in and i would vote for paul if i were so inclined to vote but it’s all a sham anyway so it doesn’t really matter who we vote for in the end.[/quote]Maravilla, you and I are of one mind on this subject. The last time I voted was for Nader in 2000. There are still some things about Ron Paul with which I disagree but if I were disposed to vote, I would give my vote to him, despite his republican affiliation.
Let’s take this a step further. I do NOT respect soldiers and I especially do not respect the ones who believe in what they are doing because they are the worst kind. What they are doing is murdering and maiming. Ultimately, they don’t protect anyone. They always end up doing exactly the opposite. I don’t give a damn about the reasons as to why they are doing it. You have to be stupid, evil or naive to put on a uniform and kill for any government.
The one thing I MOST respect about Costa Rica, and I really mean this, is that this country maintains no army. It is even more meaningful to me in that Costa Rica went through a demilitarization process to achieve eliminating armed services. That means the people considered the question and concluded democratically to do away with this evil. That takes brains and balls and a level of societal maturity unique for such a small and such a young country. They effectively negotiated themselves into a peaceful arrangement with neighbors while having no army to back them up thereby showing the rest o the planet HOW IT IS DONE.
If everyone who has a criticism of the US were to leave, only the brainwashed, terminally stupid, flag waving, bible thumping patriots would be left…and it wouldn’t change a thing. The US would continue its juggernaut to collapse as per plan.
I think I’ll turn the “love America or leave it” slogan back around on all those reactionary, conservative, “patriotic” expats and instruct them to “Don’t leave America in the first place if you love it. Go back home”. The last thing Costa Rica needs is a bunch of “ugly Americans” down here with their American exceptionalism attitude. It leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the indigenous and gives the rest of our countrymen a bad name. We are not all wrong minded, right wing, sycophants to a US government which has bullied its way across the planet.
[quote=”maravilla”].
that’s the same question i ask, sprite. what about socialist costa rica appeals to a die-hard capitalist? must be the cheap labor, the opportunity to exploit the underdog, available young women, and. . . .?????[/quote]As I said in another thread, our species has within it a sub population of people who predate on us by exploiting our energies and enslaving us with various tools. One of those tools has been capitalism.
Other effective tools of enslavement are religion, a fractional banking system and state capitalism calling itself communism. These tools only work with an ignorant, brainwashed population so perhaps I should add that a dumbed down educational system is a most effective tool as well.
I am used to seeing hypocrisy on the right. I am sure there is some on the left as well. But it does bother me to hear conservative and/or libertarian American expats bashing socialism from their new Costa Rican home. It is either hypocrisy or ignorance. Either way, it is a bit of an embarrassment for me since I am an American as well.
[quote=”bogino”]
Capitalism is not for everyone…nor is Socialism..or Communism…etc. If we are fortunate to have choices then that is a [b]GOOD[/b] thing regardless of ones political persuasion. Ultimately…the most important thing is that we are [b]FREE[/b].[/quote]
You need to look up the word “free”.
[quote=”bogino”]
As far as that pile of Garbage known as Cuba….well….it seems to me that there are many tens of thousands more Cubans risking their lives and willing to die in order to flee to the U.S. than Americans trying to flee to Cuba. I think that alone says enough about Cuba. However—-I [b]DID[/b] like Desi Arnaz and I [b]LOVE[/b] Miami Sound Machine.[/quote]Cuba is notably absent from your list and so is an ability to speak Spanish so I assume you are admitting that you are giving an opinion from a position of ignorance on this matter. I HAVE spent time in Cuba and I DO speak Spanish. My experiences and my many conversations with Cubans there gave me insight and understanding.
Although I have moved away from the left-right political paradigm recently, I still feel obliged to come to the defence of certain ideals . Socialist Cuba and Socialist Costa Rica are two of them.
Although these two nations are far apart in many specific applications of socialism, they both share the ideal of having an economy dedicated for the welfare of the working people. If you oppose such ideals, I have to wonder why you chose Costa Rica as a place to live.
[quote=”bogino”]
Well–it’s the best system out there, unless I’m missing something. OH!!!! I forgot about Cuba and Venezuela.[/quote]
What do you know about the Cuban and Venezuelan systems? Have you ever been to Cuba or studied the system? Or are you just mouthing the crap right wing propaganda that has been pounded into your brain since you were potty trained?
In any case, it does not matter what political system is being employed as long as the world’s currencies are being created and controlled by the same people.
I no longer participate in the fake two party paradigm. I agree with Ron Paul on some key points, especially regarding his anti war and anti FED stands. If he were ever to be elected, he would not survive the first 6 months before the “white shoe” boys had him knocked off.
But the system selects the presidents, not the citizens. The system will select another GW Bush or Obama. Involvement in US elections is a foolish waste of time.
Infrastructure requires money and governments pay for this with taxes. There are many kinds of taxes and the US got by just fine with NO INCOME TAX right up until 1950. (most Americans did not pay income tax up to that point and many still do not)
Costa Rica does not tax income earned in country when it is something less than $1200 per month last I heard. This means that most Costa Ricans pay no income tax. If the same formula were translated to the US economy and pro rated, most of us would pay no income tax either, just as our grandparents paid no income tax.
So why does the IRS collect income tax? The revenues are not used for infrastructure. They are used to pay the interest to the IMF (the FED) for the creation of money. Again, all money finds its way back to the source of its creation, the banks. It is a closed circuit system and you and I are not allowed to leave it. If we did, it would be considered a short circuit and immediately attended to by the IRS, an enforcement agency of the IMF (read: world elites)
If you believe you owe the IRS taxes on your income, you have been brainwashed. It is not constitutional and therefor it is not legal. If you know better and choose not to go along with this scam, you will be subjected to strong armed gangster style confiscation of your money. Scott wisely stays away from American slaves who want to invest offshore.
