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Yeah, if anyone wants to see people wearing winter coats in daylight in a tropical country while driving in truly spectacular beauty and dangerous countryside, take route 141 south from Quesada to Zacero.

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[quote=”costaricafinca”]It is important to understand that when in a more rural, higher altitude, there [i]may[/i] be less access to some of the amenities you want or need.[/quote]

I am at 3200 feet and centered within 15 minutes of three good sized towns, one of which is San Ramon. The day time temperature rarely exceeds the low 80’s and at night it drops to the 60’s.
The few times I stayed at Arenal, the daytime heat required air conditioning. At Quepos by the Pacific, 95 plus degrees was normal. I really do not know how people put up with that heat unless they are spending a small fortune on air conditioning….PLUS, in both of those areas, there is far less infrastructure than the mountains around the San Ramon area have.

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Everytime I have driven out of San ramon towards San Lorenzo and the Arensl area, that route has been a foggy but beautiful drive. I can’t imagine having to drive that area on a daily basis. Of course, locals do just that so I suppose one can get used to anything. But there will be plenty of other challenges which you will have to address without making frequent driving on a foggy mountain road one of them.

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I have property in San Ramon. Compared to most of the residential areas I have visited around Arenal, there is more altitude in San Ramon, hence, a more comfortable climate as far as temperature is concerned. I found Arenal to be quite warm during the day…and I am used to the heat in Miami.

Another place I found to be way too warm for me is Atenas. It is not far away from San Ramon, but Costa Rica has micro climates. Drive 10 from one area and you may find quite a change in temperature and rainfall. It is essential to spend some time in whatever area you are considering.

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The system is broken. There was never a time when it was NOT broken. The republic was always an illusion. Now, even the illusion is dead and this is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain. You cannot beat this dead horse back to life by voting or by tinkering with the mechanism.

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Todos los gobiernos del mundo están repletos de socio-parásitos y de gente psicópatas. No hay manera de evitar esta situación. Lo unico que uno puede hacer es huirse, esconderse o luchar. Hay que entender que en todos los casos, por toda nuestra historia, siempre el gobierno es, y ha sido, el enemigo.

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[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”sprite”]President Reagan ordered a study…[/quote]

None of that has any bearing on the question I asked you so let me try again: if we didn’t have an income tax, what would you suggest the US government do instead to fund itself?[/quote]

The government funded itself very well up until the income tax of 1913. There are a myeiad of other taxes out there and I am one of the federally licensed people who collect one of those taxes, import taxes to be specific. There are fuel taxes, excise taxes, corporate taxes and tobacco taxes..there are taxes ad nauseum. Many are legitimate and are used to some degree to fund infrastructure.
Income tax is strictly to rob and hollow out the wealth of a nation for the benefit of the international banking cartel, which prints the fiat currency we use out of thin air and then charges us for that amount as well as interest. Wake up.

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to Steve and anyone else that is still unaware, below is a posting from an expat in Chile. People are waking up.

http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/u-withdraw-my-consent?xg_source=msg_mes_network

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[quote=”davidd”]Sprite

I lived in Cuba in 2009 for 8 months.. it was really an adventure but also gave me an education and glimpse first hand into the society there.. maybe thats my problem

having this reference point which is so extreme opposite to Costa Rica

but again.. costa rica is no way near socialism.. they may have a few areas that they lean abit with its labor practices its most direct example.. but you have freedoms here that places like Venezuela and Cuba do not have.

In fact I would as far to say that Costa Rica is probably the most free country in Central america but then again I guess I am biased.

I also think the size of government is really the answer. The government here do not have the mass, internal systems or power to infiltrate and micro manage people lives.

as a foreigner with limited funds I was able to open a brick and mortar business here and grow it to be sold for a nice sum 8 years later.

now if you want to talk about incompetence.. that’s a different story. :D:D[/quote]

I agree 100% that government size is a key factor. It is one of the many positive aspects of Costa Rica that the government is anemic and is as disorganized as the national character. Expats complain about this but I see it as wonderful. Ticos are compulsively late and unorganized relative to other cultures BUT they are sincere, for the most part, and not control freaks. What more could one ask from a host country?

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[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”sprite”]I am talking specifically about US income tax, the most onerous, unconstitutional tax on the planet. [/quote]
I know of few other countries in the world – including Costa Rica – that don’t have an income tax. If you want to move to one that doesn’t, then you may be interested in [url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/03/hate-this-talk-about-raising-tax-rates-here-are-some-countries-with-no-income-taxes-whatsoever/]this.[/url]

As I pointed out to you earlier, you are not the authority on what is or isn’t constitutional. But leaving that aside, if we didn’t have an income tax, what would you suggest the US government do instead to fund itself?[/quote]

President Reagan ordered a study and discovered that most of the revenue from income taxes did NOT go to infrastructure, rather it went to the FED (a private bank) to pay the interest due for the dollars the FED creates out of thin air then loans to us at interest. This is so stupid as to be difficult to believe since the government could create its own currency debt free. Once you get your mind around this single fact, and it is hard to do, everything else falls into place. Wake up!

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[quote=”rfs1975″]The difference of Nazism from other brands of socialism and communism was not so much that it included more aspects from the political right . What distinguished Nazism was that it included a worldview we now associate almost completely with the political left: identity politics. This was what distinguished Nazism from communism, and it seems hard to argue the marriage of one leftist vision to another can somehow produce right-wing progeny. If this was how the world worked, we would have to label nationalist-socialist organizations like the PLO and Cuban Communist Party right-wing. Of course, if you are subscribing to left-wing journals like Mother Jones or Salon, I can then understand how you are confused.

[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”rfs1975″]The major flaw in all of this is that fascism, properly understood, is not a phenomenon of the right at all. Instead, it is, and always has been, a phenomenon of the left.[/quote]

I guess Hitler, Mussolini and Franco were really confused then because they imprisoned all the leftists and allied themselves with the right wing power centers – the Catholic Church, the military and the corporate plutocrats.[/quote][/quote]

We are arguing terminology here and its only value is as an orientating device to help with historical understanding. In the 1960’s, the youth movement was liberal. The establishment was conservative. This has been the historical pattern. Progressives always pushing against conservatives to drag humanity forward…to progress.

I used to identify myself with liberal ideology. I opposed conservative ideas. But this changed once I saw the manipulation being imposed on both political extremes by the international banking cartel. They funded both sides of the last two world wars and, in fact, created those conflicts.

This elite class over many years also created religion and debt to keep all of us at each other’s throats while deftly controlling both sides of the conflict.

Politicians all have a controlling hand up their asses and so does anyone else who still subscribes to the false left/right paradigm. If you vote, pay income tax or associate yourself with a party or a church, you are still in the false paradigm and are being manipulated.

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Not that it matters too terribly much, but fascism has always been favored by the right and opposed by the socialist left as in World War Two. It was the leftist communist Soviet Union which brought down the rightist Nazi Germany.
The a Spanish Revolution pitted leftist socialists against right wing fascist Franco.
It sounds like you have been given a bizarre perspective of history from a right wing source…propaganda. In other words.

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David,
I visited Cuba as a young man from 1976 through 1982. I spent time in Jibacoa and Havana. I got a good close look at their brand of socialism. But I was in no position to make a considered, mature opinion at that time. I was too involved with finding out about how my own country was betraying its citizens. I wished Cuba good luck with its revolution and then proceeded to set up a typical American life for myself in Miami.
Maybe it is because I spent my life in the most anti socialist country on the planet but Costa Rica seems to have some very socialistic programs in place. They do lot have to be mandatory to qualify as socialistic, either.

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There are many varieties of socialism and “there is no single definition encapsulating all of them” (Wikipedia)

There is absolutely enough state involvement in labor and public health to qualify Costa Rica as, at the very least, quasi socialist.

But to call the US a socialist country is absurd. It most definitely is NOT. So for all you right wing neo capitalist/ libertarian, neo fascist neo-…whatever… out there…Costa Rica has a form of government and a way of looking at social issues which are probably in direct opposition to many of your core beliefs.

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[quote=”rfs1975″]It would appear that the current socialist regime in the US is [url=http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18253-critics-mount-constitutional-attack-on-dreaded-fatca-tax-regime]being challenged on FACTA[/url]
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PLEASE!!! the US regime is NOT socialist. It is fascist or oligarchic. Look to Nazi Germany for examples, not to the Soviet Union.
This is not just word play. Costa Rica has a socialist government. There is a difference.
I am not defending socialism but I am sick and tired of hearing right wing brainwashing terminology which confuses perception of the reality.

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