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I have no “belief” in science. Belief, I save for religion. I do like to look for facts though. 🙂
VictoriaLSTMemberNever suggested someone should eat as I do – however that is. And note that I did grant that you had probably chosen organics before you chose to work at the farm.
As to the toothpaste, fluoride – beneficial in 1ppm – is toxic in large quantities. For that I refer you to your Harvard study.
Less reaction, more thought please. I don’t tell you what is good for you in the way you suggest, although the government does (do you use your seat belt?). I do try to point out the science.
VictoriaLSTMemberOn this forum, someone once suggested that I worked for or took money from Monsanto to support GMOs; that I had a financial bias. I do not/did not. It is nice to know (although other must have known before this) that Maravilla does, in fact, have a financial bias; she works for an organic farm and promotes organic foods. But chances are that M ate organically before choosing her employment, so lets not hold that against her.
VictoriaLSTMemberNope, ya got me there.
But I can choose not to use a seat belt if I accept the penalty if caught. I can speed, if I accept that I may be caught and fined.
Ever spend time in the deep South? I have. And I can tell you there are places where anyone can walk into a public bar but will leave quickly. If they are smart.
So legislating large-scale behavior works. But people will still find a way to drink that extra-large soda. And underage drinkers will still get their beer and cigarettes from the corner store.
VictoriaLSTMemberFirst, we will debate what we will as issues arise.
Next, we solve that issue by making the individual responsible for personal healthcare – not the government.
I agree that health codes are important, but drilling for water in my septic field (no I wouldn’t do that) is self-limiting (“think of it as evolution in action”) as such people are unlikely to pass on the “stupid gene”.
You can legislate seat belts as you wish – and people can accept fines for not wearing them.
As for legislating behavior, it was not overnight. Nor was it universal. Clubs still have ‘guidelines’ for membership and there are African-American groups (the Black Caucus in DC and a nationwide sorority that is racially restricted to blacks) that are restricted.
So, no. We chose behavior according to our internalization of right, wrong, law, personal desires, and a host of other things. If you want 64 oz of soda, you will get it.
VictoriaLSTMemberHarvard is about the Chinese problem with HIGH LEVELS of natural fluoride.
And its not pap, its a history of the scientific investigation of fluoride.
Snide? Back at ya cookie
VictoriaLSTMemberThe blog is just what I expected referring to HIGH LEVELS of naturally occurring fluoride in water in China. Read the NIH history before you post again.
VictoriaLSTMemberJust what I expected. Didn’t even read the NIH site which is just a history of the scientific investigation of fluoride. And a posting of what seem to be conspiracy sites. And no real discussion of the science involved or of the NYC attempt to legislate behavior. Typical.
December 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm in reply to: Our cost of living is expected to increase significantly in 2013. #199705VictoriaLSTMemberTY David. I stand (partly) corrected.
VictoriaLSTMember[quote=”maravilla”]i am more than one hour away from SJO and live where there are more cows than people. Systemic ingestion of fluoride does not improve teeth or prevent cavities. there are dozens of studies that prove this. and the topical application of fluoride is questionable in the prevention of caries — studies done in the last ten years show that cities with no fluordation have lower incidences of cavities. and nobody has a fluoride deficiency. as for other nutritional deficiencies, the standard american diet, laden with too much sugar, chemicals, and processed ingredients has been the downfall of an entire population, and the Ticos have succumbed to the propaganda to eat this stuff, too. there is no mystery why costa rica is suffering from an obesity, heart disease, and diabetes epidemic. i do as much as i can to educate people about what not to eat, and what to eat, but you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it think.[/quote]
For your edification: http://history.nih.gov/museum/education_fluoride.html
Yes, it is a government site, so, even thought you seem to trust the government in NYC to protect people from sugary beverages, you will question the NIH site….sigh.
As for your suggestion that people who live in cities with no fluoride in the water having low incidents of cavities, it could just be that they brush with fluoride toothpaste. DUH
VictoriaLSTMemberif they aren’t smart enough to not drink 64 oz of Coke with a pseudo-beef hamburger, then yes, someone should make that choice for them. (i’m ducking now!)
Better duck LOW! Typical leftist thinking: “I know what’s best for you so I will make your decisions for you”. Bloomburg’s outlawing a large soda is absurd. All you need to do is buy two smaller sodas……or are the servers at McDonald’s now supposed to track the number of people you are buying for and, like the bartender who takes your keys, tell you ‘no’ if you order “more than you should drink”. And what about the refill stations at fast food restaurants? Buy a small and refill it 5 times?
Legislating behavior does NOT work.
VictoriaLSTMember[quote=”maravilla”]i live in rural costa rica, V. where did you think i lived? i know exactly what most of the ticos eat, and gringos, too, and yes, i could see where they would have nutrient deficiencies far beyond just yodo and iron.[/quote]
First, I figured you for Central Valley, close to SJ and shopping – yes, I know there are places near SJ that are rural.
If you know that ticos “and gringos” have dietary deficiencies, would you deny them easy access to what their bodies need? Or do you just want to lose a generation or two while you educate them on how to eat properly? And what steps are you taking to improve nutritional education in your area?
And, yes, flouride does strengthen teeth. With the poor dental care of the majority of rural Ticos, flouride could help.
December 26, 2012 at 7:39 pm in reply to: Our cost of living is expected to increase significantly in 2013. #199702VictoriaLSTMemberAs Elidermuller said, some of the rural water facilities do not add chlorine or flouride to the water supply even though it has been mandated by the government. Cost seems to be the major issue. So far, water purity has not been a problem, but, as demand rises in rural areas, it could be. Contaminants from cow manure and pesticides will eventually get into the water supply and cause problems. Chlorination will be the solution.
VictoriaLSTMemberM are you suggesting that rural Costa Ricans eat a diet as balanced as yours? If so, you know nothing about rural CR.
VictoriaLSTMemberNow if someone can tell me what this means…….
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